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Steve McClaren - what will it take for him to go
« on: January 01, 2016, 11:42:59 am »
I wondered what it might take for Mike Ashley to sack Steve McClaren ?

It will be results on the pitch.

Looking at our next 5 league games is pretty terrifying but then that may work in Steve McClaren's favour.
- Arsenal a
- Man United h
- West Ham h
- Watford a
- Everton a

He could target 3 points from those matches and get away with it. So he'll be here for the January transfer.

His big moments are going to come early February with the January transfer window complete though the matches still don't look any easier
- West Brom h
- Chelsea a
- Man City h

Then the winnable matches with our relegation rivals start coming in March and April.

The key match for me then is going to be 6th Feb home to West Brom.

That's decision time 

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Re: Steve McClaren - what will it take for him to go
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2016, 02:23:14 pm »
It's really not helpful having quotes like this from Arsene Wenger.

We are not employing Steve McClaren to transform the club. We are employing him to manage the first team squad and win football matches. He's not showing much capability in doing that.   

Arsenal boss tips Steve McClaren to succeed at Newcastle: 'It's impossible to transform a club in six months'
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Arsenal boss backs Steve McClaren to succeed at Newcastle: 'It's impossible to transform a club in six months'
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Arsene Wenger believes Newcastle should keep faith in manager Steve McClaren.

The former England boss has struggled to achieve consistency since being appointed at St James' Park in the summer and takes his side to the Emirates Stadium still stuck in the Barclays Premier League relegation zone.

The 54-year-old McClaren has already come under pressure from some quarters despite recent wins over Liverpool and Tottenham.

But Wenger, whose side will be looking to maintain top spot with a win over the Magpies, feels his counterpart deserves more time.

"He has only just joined the club," Wenger replied when asked about speculation over McClaren's future.

"Newcastle is a very exciting project because it's a very big club and it's a fantastic and exciting job for a manager like Steve McClaren, but it is a long-term job.

"(Newcastle) has a huge potential and in six months it's impossible to transform a club of that stature into a club competing for the Premier League. Give him time.

"I know that patience is not the first quality in our society but, unfortunately to be successful, you need it."

A Fabricio Coloccini own goal was all that separated the sides when they met in the north-east back in August.

Newcastle had to wait until October for their first league win but Wenger reckons McClaren's squad possesses the quality to cause problems to his side.

"They had a difficult start and they lacked a little bit of confidence," he said.

"That always shows at home more than away from home. Away from home they have had quite good results and performances.

"If you look at their squad, they have good players in all areas. Up front they have Papiss Cisse, Aleksandar Mitrovic, Ayoze Perez.

"In the middle of the park they have players like Moussa Sissoko and Georginio Wijnaldum who can make a difference as well, so they are a dangerous team to play."


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Re: Steve McClaren - what will it take for him to go
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2016, 03:52:02 pm »
Wasn't one of his goals to win a cup this year? Lose to Watford next weekend and that can't happen so id say he could be gone in 9 days time.

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Re: Steve McClaren - what will it take for him to go
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2016, 09:43:20 pm »
Well yes the assumption of 6th Feb was that we wouldn't even try to win the cup match at Watford.

Truth is we played our strongest team and it was Watford who were not bothered and made 4 changes, yet they still beat us and we still failed to score.

The fans turned significantly on the team today with chants of:
We want our money back
You're not very good you're only 1-0 up
We lose every week

This led to the following post match analysis from Steve McClaren :
“I thought it was very harsh (chants from Newcastle fans at Watford).

“I think we have had two games, Leicester and Palace, where we were all angry and frustrated and we could accept criticism.

“The attitude of the players, that’s all they (supporters) ask. Do they work, do they chase, do they win tackles, do they create chances?

“We have had 25 crosses…25 crosses in the game, they have gone across the keeper and Gomes has made saves, our keeper has not had a save to make – you can’t ask any more from the players.

“So we just have to get on with it – unfortunately that is the nature of football and players have to be big enough and bold enough, have the courage, we have talked about that – they are certainly having that.

“It is just not having luck at one end and not sticking the balls in the net.”


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McClaren is an idiot, he has to go now or the club is going to go into meltdown

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Re: Steve McClaren - what will it take for him to go
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2016, 10:23:31 pm »
He's exactly like Kinnear right down to the fact that he thinks he's playing good football and that draws at home to Stoke and Aston Villa are acceptable results.

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Re: Steve McClaren - what will it take for him to go
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2016, 05:31:56 pm »
It's troubling me that McClaren says he needs time to correct years of mismanagement at Newcastle.

Apart from a brief spell from John Carver then the years of mismanagement were presided over by Alan Pardew.

Now we've been told Alan Pardew is a great British manager.

Does that mean that actually it was not actually Alan Pardew's fault because he had no control over events ?

In which case how is McClaren going to get control of events to correct the years of mismanagement when nothing has changed in the running of the club ?

Maybe McClaren needs to detail examples of this mismanagement and how he plans to correct it.

Can anyone help me with this, I'm struggling with the logic ?     

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Re: Steve McClaren - what will it take for him to go
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2016, 10:24:55 am »
Whilst we did not expect to get anything out of playing Chelsea away it was the embarrassing nature of the performance and the poor team selection, tactics and substitutions which has set the alarm bells ringing.

McClaren has spent £82 million and produced a team that disappears in away matches.

I'm sitting watching David Moyes on Goals on Sunday thinking how impressive he sounds compared to McClaren and wondering how much it would cost to hire him. Even at £5 million a year it would still be cheaper than letting McClaren waste your money in the transfer market. Moyes record in the transfer market is actually pretty good. He's saying he signed John Stones from Barnsley for £1.5 million, his last signing for Everton.

If I owned Newcastle right now I'd sack McClaren today and ask David Moyes to build me a dynasty over a period of years. We might not be massively great but at least the club would be managed well and we would be stable.

Anything better than the depressing and demoralising events currently playing out in front of us.       

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Re: Steve McClaren - what will it take for him to go
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2016, 12:56:46 pm »
I hated the way Everton played under Moyes, he may well be a better manager but god his football is dull as dishwater, every game!!!

Yesterday was another embarrassment I agree, but IIRC, we played some pretty decent football the previous three home fixtures (west ham & ManU) at least. Also, a lot of stick has been levelled at some of the players for missing so many 'sitters', but for them to be missing sitters, it means chances are being created at least. I do though remain baffled how we seem to have a team that turns up one week but not the next & repeat :(
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Re: Steve McClaren - what will it take for him to go
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2016, 01:56:24 pm »
The problem is we can't just turn up for home games against average games and get absolutely decked every week away from home. You look at the Spurs match that we won and honestly we could have been three down by half time. It's a mere fluke that we won it.

It's clear to me that McClaren is like Pardew in that he has one formation, one tactic and when it doesn't work he is unable to offer alternatives.

What makes it all the worse is he stands in front of the media telling the world that he doesn't think the football is that bad and that we will work on a few things in training etc. If he believes that he needs sacking for being an incompetent fool and if he doesn't he should be sacked for being an incompetent fraud.

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Re: Steve McClaren - what will it take for him to go
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2016, 04:25:35 pm »
I was pretty peeved at McClaren's post match comments yesterday where he complained he had to play Rolando Aarons at left back.

Any fool can see we should have signed a left back in January but instead we signed another three central midfield players.

It's also a bit odd we would sign another right winger in Townsend then play him on the left because we already have Sissoko playing in that position. 

My personal view is that we have a reasonable squad of players good enough for mid table however our managers an idiot. Hence the big risk to us going down is what that fool does with the team selections over the next few weeks.   

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Re: Steve McClaren - what will it take for him to go
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2016, 10:43:48 pm »
After careful consideration & having been thoroughly entertained by this man again:
http://youtu.be/KkG_T1Y7a8s
(I love his comparison between 'himself & salad' vs 'Colo & Taylor', who were our CB's the year we went down)


McClaren OUT!!!
« Last Edit: February 14, 2016, 10:47:18 pm by Legzy »