Author Topic: Quick quiz on the success of Newcastle United youth development  (Read 1448 times)

Offline trophy4toon

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okay, question number 1,
who was the last player developed through Newcastle Youth system who went on to play for England ? 

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Re: Quick quiz on the success of Newcastle United youth development
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2017, 10:30:21 pm »
Steve Howey?

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Re: Quick quiz on the success of Newcastle United youth development
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2017, 07:17:49 am »
No, he is playing in premier league now but for another club

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Re: Quick quiz on the success of Newcastle United youth development
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2017, 11:30:39 pm »
Oh yeah, it be Andy Carrol I imagine

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Re: Quick quiz on the success of Newcastle United youth development
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2017, 12:39:15 pm »
Andy Carroll was the second last player out of our Academy to play for England, you've just answered question 2 correctly there though Legzy.
We sold Andy Carrol to Liverpool for 35 million after he had scored 31 goals in 80 appearances for Newcastle, a perfect role model for the Academy that Mike Ashley is seeking then.

Back to question 1 though .....
without making any first team appearances we sold him to Celtic for 2.2 million, he then went on to play for England and Celtic then sold him to a Premier League club for 10 million.

Pretty disastrous Academy management there for Mike Ashley, but who is it ?   

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Re: Quick quiz on the success of Newcastle United youth development
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2017, 11:30:13 pm »
ok, so this quiz may not be following the traditional route.
Question 2 has been answered before Question 1. In fact was answered before it was even posted.
Whilst Question 1 has still to be answered lets throw in :
Question 3
One of the countries top youth prospects is 17 years old and playing at the Newcastle Academy. However he has over the summer quit Newcastle and signed for another Premier League club for a fee of 1 million. Claiming they have an excellent track record of giving young players a chance. Implying Newcastle don't ?
What is his name and which club did he sign for.

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Re: Quick quiz on the success of Newcastle United youth development
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2017, 12:53:22 pm »
1) Fraser Forster - England GK - we had to pick between him and Tim Krul at one point and Krul won, so Forster left.

2) The kid signed for Everton but I can't remember his name...

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Re: Quick quiz on the success of Newcastle United youth development
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2017, 10:08:12 pm »
Well done Mrmalaki, the young player is Lewis Gibson:
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/lewis-gibson-leaves-newcastle-united-13393281

Question 4:
What percentage of Academy players at 16 years old have left the professional game by the time they are 21 ?

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Re: Quick quiz on the success of Newcastle United youth development
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2017, 11:55:20 pm »
Our academy or in general across academies?

In general it must be close to 90% for Newcastle probably closer to 95%

General rule of thumb, an academy would have around 15 to 20 in their u16 squad (at that age squads are separated by 1 year, with exceptional talents playing above themselves).

By the time they are 21 they are vying for squad places with people up to 35 years old. So naturally it is going go curtail quite significantly at that age bracket.

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Re: Quick quiz on the success of Newcastle United youth development
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2017, 11:43:13 am »
I read somewhere a while back that it's around 75% or more at the Premier League level. I'm not sure how that translates down the leagues though.

As for Lewis Gibson I think he's made a massive mistake in moving to Everton. It may have seemed over the last five years that Everton is a great club to join because young players have been coming through their system into the first team. But given that they have new ownership and have been splashing cash on bringing in top players from elsewhere, those doors are about to close on young players. Just look at Chelsea and Man City as examples of how difficult it is to break into the first team now that there is pressure on them to deliver a first team that will challenge for league titles. In fact both those sides simply loan their players out to other Premier League and Championship sides with regularity before simply selling them off.